Tigerlily, no one said lured dogs dont think. they said that "often" moving a dog around with a target stick makes them think more. And yes i did say that Mouse cannot think with food in front of her. No one said all dogs cant think.
The older dog is my dog aswell not the "family dog" but never trick trained her before. She so far only learns with lure. If I try anything else she just sits there waving her paw at me and thats it. I'm not saying all older dogs just mine. and I had Jenny 10 years before we got the other 2.
//they said that "often" moving a dog around with a target stick makes them think more.//
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. My dog can follow either a bit of food, or a stick i can't spot any difference in his "thinking" ability, at all. Obviously, not all dogs can think in the presence of food, but, mine can anyway. BUT If i have not used food rewards for a while, or if i have not trained him much for a while, oh yeah, i see what you mean! OH yeah!! wow, my dog will go a lil bit spazzy!! But, with regular ongoing training, Buddy is able to focus on the trick itself, not the food.
Can't wait to see the video.!! Give me a link of the video when its ready. I am working on one too but it won't be on youtube cause I don't have an account.