I am thinking the same thing Dogster (great minds think alike don't they

). He does only play bow when with his soccer ball. Although on play dates he's played bowed, to invite a very elderly, sedate black lab to join in the fun he was having with a dashing young lady Lab.

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Have the clicker handy whenever we're training and with Ra Kismet that also means 'break for fun time' and did start to click/treat but LOL he's so involved with his soccer ball, treats don't seem to register

Neither does the cue 'bow'
Will try a few more times and if it doesn't work, will train as per the vid, as I know Rakins doesn't always like being physically manipulated, he's too 'independent' for that, likes to 'do it himself'
I don't think it will take him long, once he understands what I want, as his 'natural ' play bow is very pronounced
